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In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’
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Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao
What an odd thing to say.
What an odd thing to formally state.
I feel like I would suspect them less if they hadn’t said anything. Most of Israel’s formal statements regarding allegations of Israeli violence are lies, so what would make this statement different?
They do so many (illegal) international assassinations, it’s good to clarify
See also Mossad
Eh, there was “evidence” (a third-party tweet) that Kirk was worried about being killed by Israel shortly before his death.
It’s not like this came out of nowhere.
He was a raging antisemite. Of course a raging antiemetic whack job would be concerned about them killing him.
antiemetic
Kirk was very much exactly the opposite of that…
Wait, antisemite definition one ‘hates Jews’ or antisemite definition two ‘thinks Palestinians are people’? Definition one has nothing to fear.
The original, actual, sense.
He’s a white supremacist. He hated anyone who isn’t white. He’s said some pretty horrific things about Jews, even if he’s nominally okay with an Israeli state (because fascists of a feather…)
Wait, Jews aren’t white?
Definitely 1. Is position over Israel and Palestine seems to have been all over the place. There are videos of him saying Netanyahu is lying about Gaza, and he we was firmly against Israel’s attack on Iran, but then he would also say absurd stuff like there’s no starvation in Gaza.
Okay. So he was anti-zionist-state but pro genocide?
Bro was a Christofascist. He hated everything that wasn’t a white Evangelical Christian male.
I had zero reasons to suspect Israel in this, but now there is one
I hope that people aren’t really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there’s a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don’t think it’s too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.
More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: “You wouldn’t defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!” Which is definitely not a good bar to set.
I hope people in general don’t take anything Benjamin Netanyahu takes seriously, whether it’s to immediately believe him or to immediately disbelieve him.
The man is a prick, every word he says is the kind of politically sensitive thing that’s literally always reported with some bias, and more importantly, politicians don’t make statements because they are committed to keeping random citizens half way around the world informed of the entire truth.
That’s not their job. Even your own politicians are not newsreaders or your personal oracles, they speak to the public in order to fulfil their duties moving the country in a particular direction.
So yes, obviously, if a politician says ‘yo this thing is now illegal so don’t do it’, probably take it seriously. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking cynicism is any wiser than credulousness, it isn’t.
But also don’t seriously assume you’ve uncovered state secrets because Benjamin Bloody Netanyahu made a pubic statement that you, personally, have seen the truth behind. That’s flat out deranged.
With the disclaimer - yeah no, I also did the whole ‘weirdly specific denials are rarely as reassuring as one might think’ because let’s be honest, the world is a shit show and politics is a burning circus and it’s nice to laugh at a foreign weirdo leader now and again as a nice little break from weeping at my own.
A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
Do things ever go any other way over there? 🙄
Well I’m convinced
Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again
So….? They did?
Well we know it wasn’t Russia since no windows were involved.
Sus
well coming from such a genuine stand up kind of guy who never does evil things. no sir. yeah I can totally trust this is true.
Every time he tells a lie, his ears grow slightly.
He left behind a wife and two kids. That’s how we know Israel didn’t do it.
Stolen from here
BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf
Being against isreal is not bigotry so save your actual bias for someone that can be trusted to be honest abput it.
Being anti-Israel is not the same as antisemitism, but I believe the previous comment was referring to the actual Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory.
This is what I was referring to. Could have phrased it better.
No, it was incredibly obvious
Makes sense, they’re reaching the point where it’s more efficient to list the people they haven’t killed.
For the record, I can believe that Israel has managed to bomb everything in Gaza except Hamas.
