“2017 Stigmata? No, that’s a 2016. Notice the bulb size in the taillight array. In between the switch from 5th Gen to 6th they changed the LED bulb size from 3.3mm to 3.35, so now theres only 58 lights in the upper track.”
“2017 Stigmata? No, that’s a 2016. Notice the bulb size in the taillight array. In between the switch from 5th Gen to 6th they changed the LED bulb size from 3.3mm to 3.35, so now theres only 58 lights in the upper track.”
“On the US domestic market version, sure, but on the European version (made in Dresden, not the one in made in Prague of course) they had to add the 59th light back to the upper track to comply with traffic safety laws”
“On the US domestic market version, sure, but on the European version (made in Dresden, not the one in made in Prague of course) they had to add the 59th light back to the upper track to comply with traffic safety laws”
That’s a myth. The EU models had the 59th bulb back in because they reused the the 2016 tail light array due to an overstock of the parts after the EU demand for the 2016s was lower than expected. Also, they wouldn’t need to have 59b32e tail light arrays though, the production numbers of the vehicles was too low, and therefore they did not have to comply with the minimum bulb array redundancy requirements as laid out on code 187743 subsection 22.
Wrong again, all EU models have the 59th bulb, it’s due to minimum light requirements in the post 2018 regs update. They did use US overstock for a while (cause why not) but all the old tooling was sent over so both Dresden and Prague could build them in spec.
Oh shit. I forgot about the 2018 mid quarter decade refresh. They don’t usually get that much attention. I’m glad people like you are here to track those changes.
I admit I only know what a Stigmata is because the commercial with the guy with the bleeding hands was cool. Killer ad campaign to release them on Halloween too!
The shrimp colour vision thingy turned out to not actually be true https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.14578
Can’t have nice things
Right? What was it hurting to have some people believe this. Just let people enjoy things, does it really matter whether the shrimp color vision thingy was true or not?
That dress was fucking white and gold, and I’ll go to my grave believing the black and blue one was some sort of conspiracy.
Dammit
Even “sedan” is pushing it. Car, big car, unnecessarily big car, dumpster fire.
unnecessarily big car

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Very true.
I can identify make and model but NEVER the year.
But my mostly-deaf husband can identify motorcycles BY SOUND (or lack thereof).
I can pretty much always do make.
Model for fun cars but not boring ones/trucks/vans/suvs.
Year for the outstanding exemplary best model years of the fun ones.
Any more, cars change very little between years. Sometimes hard to tell even after a “refresh” in the middle of a generation. My kid thinks it’s a superpower that I can tell the differences between generations of Corvettes. Like dude, I’ve had car magazines in my hands since I was half your age.
Yeah for a lot of cars (such as my own Audi a3 sportback), I’d only be able to give you a fairly wide range of years because whatever changes there were are more or less imperceptible.
Which is totally understandable, really. It makes no sense to retool every single year to make small adjustments like the 50’s and 60’s. That being said ford made several “generations” of mustang without ever changing the frame. I think of the last 3 full redesigns, they’ve all shared 2 generations of architecture. That’s too long to go without updating the core of the car.
There are generations. Like the same body style for several years.
Your husband and I could be best friends because I also have poor hearing and can do the same thing with motorcycles with a pretty high success rate.
We can sit in the same room not talking. Then one of us will think the other said something and yell “Huh?”. The other will loudly reply “What?”. Then that’ll go on for several minutes until we both smile and nod.
😂 that happens sometimes with TV voices. He’ll think I said something and I just look at the TV like…“Yeah that was them.” He does wear hearing aids, which work well 95% of the time. That 5% when they don’t work can be ROUGH.
I consider myself hard of hearing, but only at certain frequencies. I can hear lower (bass) sounds much better than mid range sounds; high pitch sounds hurt like a mother!
I have a very bad sense of smell - not sure if it’s technically anosmia but if not it’s close - but the few things I can smell, I can smell very well and usually identify pretty quickly.
I can recognize Chargers, Explorers, and Crown Vics pretty easily.
Whee - oooo! Whee - oooo!
last time I was in vancouver they had ~2014 dodge caravans too which are absolute dogshit, my family had one for some time. It looks especially dumb with the ramming thing on the front
Reminds me of XKCD 915
Amazing how there really is an XKXD for everything 😘👌
an XKXD for everything
This is the best response of an xkcd comic I’ve ever seen
This just… isn’t true though. There are tons of things we spend time on and don’t become snobs about.
Many people watch a ton of movies but don’t care all that much.
Half of them say what make and model they are on the back. That’s what those plastic words glued to them are. 🤷♂️
Exactly, and you can usually guess the model year within a few years, simply by looking at the styling characteristics of the vehicle. It’s not too difficult to tell if a car came from the first half or second half of the 90s, for example.
I do notice a lot more made in the last couple years not having any identifying markings. So many EVs that don’t even have a company logo on them (sometimes even Teslas don’t due to how they are made; it really depends on the day the car was built).
Every car comes with badging.
It’s not hard to take them off. I’m fairly certain the Tesla’s are being removed by the owners or haters
There are also the times the worker didn’t put it on or put it on wrong during assembly and it fell off before even going out to the customer. I worked at the Fremont plant; this was pretty common. It’s also why I would not own one even if Musk wasn’t a huge douche nozzle; they’re put together like shit by underpaid contractors and robots that break down every minute and a half.

ooh a mazda miata/mx5 na
The distorted perspective made me think rx7 at first.
I’m pretty good at that and I don’t know why. I guess I just passively pay a lot of attention to car makes/models for some reason.
It has been becoming harder, though.
Not only are most cars looking alike nowadays, but manufacturers are also mostly not putting model name badges on their cars any more… :-(Except for the models where they put the name in huge indented letters on the tailgate of hatch like the M A V E R I C K.
H o n d a Prologue
So glad I’m not the only one bothered by this one
It’s not even a real honda. It’s a badge engineered GM.
lol wait what i thought it was a joke spin on prelude, it’s real?
well i guess it’s still a joke, but honda themselves made itYeah, it’s their EV crossover that’s actually made by GM.
But that’s still nothing compared to the huge alphanumeric designators of the olden days:
“Ford Fiesta 1.6 GTI LS 4x4 Sunny Hedgehog Edition”That didn’t even match the designation! I got an “xle” car and was curious what’s it meant. You ready for this bullshit? Executive luxury edition! It’s the fucking base model! The top end model is called the touring. Like in what world does that make sense‽
R A M
And they’re all grey.
My friend had a grey SUV that for the life of me I could not find in a parking lot. So many gray SUVs that all look the same…
I hate the vehicle color trend of Depression Grey. And blue. And mold green.
Blame the cops. They were pulling over brighter vehicles at a higher rate for a long time. May still be.
From my subjective point of view. I’ve noticed they pull over older cars. I just gave my cousin my 2005 sonata with 300k. It’s brown with faded clear coat on the hood. I got pulled over every other month in that thing despite breaking no laws. Just got a new Avalon and haven’t been pulled over once since, despite not having plates on it the day I picked it up.
That definitely became a thing. They think if you have an older car it means you won’t have insurance so they’ll be able to ticket you. Drug dealers around here used to ride in hoopties (the assumption at the time was that cops wouldn’t stop them because they knew they didn’t have any money) which probably doesn’t help the perception of older cars. They moved on a while back to newer and more invisible cars like slightly used SUVs.
For a while the number of white cars on the road was like 1/3 (the greatest number), black cars made up about 1/5, and red was 5%. But red cars were pulled over the second most.
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For me, it’s fun being able to identify things correctly. I was playing that color HEX code guessing game for a bit on [email protected], and it’s the same feeling.
My partner is like this with birds xD
me: “Oh look, a starling!”
him: “Yep, it’s a bird.”
(though to be fair, he’s getting better at it :P)
It’s the Merlin app, isn’t it? They were all just “birds” to me before I started identifying their calls… and it’s a fast pipeline from there to borderline “birdwatching”. What has my life become?
I love Merlin :) It helped me learn to recognise so many local birdsongs!
Look, Raymond. A yellow crested warbler.
To be fair, almost no one is excited to see a starling.
Id be very sad to see a single starling. They always travel in groups.
I like the way they run around in groups while combing an area for food :) Also they are really pretty from close up, kinda iridescent, with lots of little white spots!
Used a bird call app over in western Melbourne and it insisted we could hear a starling. Bloody things are everywhere in England and I don’t know one when i hear it.
Tbh starlings have an extremely varied repertoire. When I’m passing near a singing one here in Scotland, for the several minutes that I’m in hearing range, it never repeats the same tune. Pretty amazing!
Imagine being envious of someone with basic memorization skills.
Where’s the envy? Also it’s more about being interested in the subject matter than inherent ability.
What makes you think they’re envious?
I get what you’re saying in terms of “anyone can do this if they’re willing to devote enough time to a specific / niche subject matter” but I think you’re stating it somewhat reductively (and your tone seems questionable but that could just be a textual communication issue).
I find that I have poor rote memorization skills but that I’m very good at conceptual reasoning using lots of different information from very tangentially related subject matters. So I don’t know too much about chemistry, metalworking, and sewing on their own, but I know enough to pick out the right fabric, thread, jewelry findings, and dye, and what order to use them in to get a pretty cool result.
I think that ability actually somewhat necessarily comes at the expense of my rote memorization capabilities. To put that in plainer language, I think a lot of people can be in love with the world as a whole or deeply in love with just a few parts of it (me being the former). And while the important thing in the end is that you find something out there in the world to love and accept yourself for loving it, it’s also not maladaptive to see someone else do something cool and think,“I might not have time in my life to pick up that skill, but I bet it feels good to be able to do it.” And who knows? Maybe if they’re envious enough they’ll make time in their life to learn how to do the cool thing.
I’m very jealous. My memory sucks.
I ran into someone and I said “How’s the Corolla Cross?” and she looked at me shocked and said “No one knows what car that is?! How do you know?” I was like “Headlights? Body shape? Too small to be a Rav4, too high to be a Corolla.”
Basically, I would’ve written autistic guide books on local ferns if I’d been born a couple decades earlier, someone had just already written them. Same with birding. Ain’t found a new bird in a while.
Saw a presentation of someone visting remote islands and discovering new types of ferns. Talked about contributing to the the open database of ferns: https://fernphy.github.io/ Never too late!
Isn’t this the case for any hobby or niche field?
The difference is that we all come into contact with and have to deal with cars on some level whereas in case of a niche hobby people may not even know it exists. Cars are such a central part of modern life that it feels weird that some people seem to have occult insight into it that others lack. It’s both a niche hobby and not niche at all at the same time, in a way.
Cars are such a central part of modern life
I think that depends a lot on where you live. The vast majority of my colleagues and friends don’t have cars, but we live in large UK cities, so life is easily doable without a car. Even a friend who used to have a car ended up selling it, bc he just didn’t use it enough to justify the costs.
I don’t have a car either, not even a license. There are still cars all around me and most likely you as well.
All it required for me was to be in the market for a new car. Then I started paying more attention to what make and model every car on the road was and it’s stuck with me ever since.
I never knew one school bus from another, they were all just big yellow boxes. Then I started looking to buy a used one and somehow I can now tell make, model and year of every single one I see. I know what engines and transmissions they all have. I can even tell my district’s buses apart from the neighboring district’s buses although they’re exactly the same buses, even if I can’t see the lettering or numbers on the sides. And yet somehow I’m still single!
Ill marry you and we can ride off into the sunset in your skoolie.
About that: my skoolie only has a single bed. You could have the hammock, I suppose.
Sounds like bad planning.
Or good planning if you hate company.
buddy hammock? :3
Weird, I have been looking to buy a smartphone and I can still not tell them apart.
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jk I am not on the looking for a new smartphone. Just been thinking of getting one.
My dad can look up and tell a 767 from an a330 passing over at 37,000ft. I work as a commercial pilot and tell the difference when ones parked at the terminal still. It must be some spicy brain shit


















