Because there are currently Democrats that haven’t caved to donor pressure?

but they ended up controlling everything anyway

Republicans have been completely aligned since Trump came into office. Democrats instead have had spoiler candidates that have almost completely ruined their plans in the Biden Admin.

We should be focused on primary-ing out the moderates and establishment candidates in the party. Yes the DNC always has the ability to shut shit down as they did in 2016 with Bernie, but if the movement is strong enough, I wager that won’t matter.

chose not do do it

Bernie got snubbed by the DNC in 2016??? Hello?

And Biden capitulated to Bernie in 2020 by adopting his policies, only later abandoning them like an asshole.

Bernie has rarely chosen at any point NOT to change the system.

How did the Greens work out?

I agree that FPTP is shit and we need something different. Most Americans are too loyal, stupid, or apathetic to care about a random 3rd party on the ballot.

We need name brand recognition with people, and you do that will the Democrats. What we also need is a coalition of progressives in the Dems that actively politick about working class issues like Bernie Sanders to counter the moderates.

Third party won’t work in a FPTP system.

We can pass RCV in local elections across the country, but progressive Dems need to work within the party lines to get shit done.

And he is a 3rd party: Democratic Socialist.

And when two parties exist in a FPTP system, with one being extremely regressive, Americans expect the other party to be equally progressive in their approach!

Instead, as with the Rachet Effect, the Dems can’t onboard progressivism because they’re captured by corporate donors and consultants.

Primary 'em out!

Some think it was Trump’s threat of removing the filibuster

Never underestimate the Dems’ ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

That won’t happen. Cons will fuck over Americans.

The Dems that caved with this vote had “hope” their Con counterparts would vote the right way.

They didn’t even get real assurances in policy measures!!!

THESE are the Democrats that should be uprooted from the party and replaced with candidates that actually represent their voter base.

The fact that Dems has this many spoilers shows you that they aren’t really beating the controlled opposition claims.

We need a Democratic Party that fights back. Not one that caves to evil.

THIS is why many people on Lemmy are disillusioned by Democrats. Dems had only positive outcomes for themselves by letting the shutdown continue. They could have waited while Trump fucks the citizenry more and more, deepening their political capital for 2026.

Instead, all of the Dems who aren’t facing re-election next year, or have re-election in 2028 or 2030 voted to end the shutdown. These Dems have no opportunity loss for voting this way. Un-fucking-believable

Well, Cuck Boomer didn’t cave, but he couldn’t whip his own minority whip or the rest of his caucus. Then he made it look like he was on the right side by voting NO, when NOTHING got accomplished.

Truly a Cuck

They’re using the logic you introduced in your claim to turn your claim on its head.

If you can’t recognize that, then who really has comprehension skill issues?

Rights are a human construct. They don’t exist in nature.

When we fight to construct them, we must fight to keep them. In a representative democracy, our representatives are the ones who are supposed to fight for us. But when they fail, that responsibility falls back to the average, everyday, common person.

The struggle to keep our rights moreso has to do with getting people off the couch to stand up for what they believe in. In an apathetic society glued to their toys and treats, their bread and circuses, it’s that much easier for other humans with wishes to collect their own power to dismantle that of the majority.

I’ve heard that some Dems are beginning to cave as Trump wants to destroy the filibuster.

I swear to jahh if the Dems do that… Fucking spineless, as ever

Hasan Piker mention? In MY lemmy.world post? Without immediate ridicule?

Based

Good. We’re tired of billionaires hoarding OUR wealth, the wealth WE created, as well as the politicians paid by and for those same billionaires rigging the system on their behalf.

As any Marxist-Leninist knows though, the best time to strike the revolution is after you’ve gained the support of the public and elucidated class consciousness. We need more Leftists in political power first spreading the message of class warfare before we get there.

Because otherwise this “revolution” will be entirely selfish and unorganized and will make it harder to get anything accomplished.

Don’t forget that the government can also just print money!!

When you consider the strategy here, and the potential downsides if Jackson didn’t issue this stay, it makes more sense why she did it.

We’ll see how SCOTUS rules on it. Hopefully they’ll be on the side of fucking humanity

Cool stuff. I work in solar and build those MW-sized systems, so AMA if you have any questions

This please…

So odd seeing libs talk you down in this thread, and not do basic research.

I haven’t really been following all of this because I don’t need SNAP (yet), but it seems like it’s not hard to figure this out with Google.

Hopefully more states figure out how to allocate the USDA’s emergency funds before more people starve.