You know for a used market to exist, someone has to buy it new at some point?
As for me, I plan to hold onto my car for 8-10 years. I had a windfall on top of a windfall and figured “fuck it, #yolo”.
Nothing wrong with used cars but I’d have a little hesitation buying a used vehicle of any vehicle manufacturer’s first go-around with EVs…
It’s especially impressive since the R1T came first.
I’d be curious for a comparison with and without the tonneau cover since I’d imagine a fair bit of usage will be with the cover rolled up.
The Cybertruck’s range lags behind its competitors. A dual-motor Rivian R1T achieved 390 miles in our test (albeit on more efficient tires) and our long-term Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat hit 345 miles.
The consumption data is even more interesting. While testing the Rivian, the R1T used 42.3 kWh of energy to travel 100 miles, and the Lightning used 43.7 kWh per 100 miles. Despite being shaped like a giant brutalist triangle, the Cybertruck used 45.1 kWh of energy, making it slightly less efficient in an apples-to-apples comparison
I’m glad they’re publishing average consumption stats too. Compared to crossovers it’s a substantial hike in power consumption but also different shape and class of vehicle and whatnot.
I’d be curious if they end up doing a comparison with and without the tonneau cover. I’d guess the gap in power consumption between the R1T and CT would widen a fair bit more. Still seems like the R1T is the truck to beat.
I’m glad there seem to be more people of the reasonable variety on this fuckcars community versus other platforms.
Eliminating/reducing car dependency is going to be a much easier problem than just deleting cars from existence.
One fewer mandatory ride in a car is a win no matter how you slice it.
How are they shilling for just Tesla here? They praise other manufacturer’s moves like Hyundai, Ford, and BYD in the article.
GM has been making a number of questionable moves in shifting to EVs. I’m not sure how anyone can come to any other conclusion. At least they’re trying, unlike Toyota?
Tesla is the big elephant in the room. They are still selling more BEVs than every other manufacturer combined. There just isn’t escaping that they’re the company to beat right now (at least in the US. BYD seems to be approaching this quick elsewhere)
Sounds like they are going to transition to just video content because they can make more licensing videos than publishing content online and relying on ad/stream revenue.
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I dunno folks, as a collective whole (not this community, but Lemmy) we ought to cut the crap, drop the circlejerking, the poo-pooing, and the rampant doomerism because we might get some new visitors as these numbers become more known and we can’t let folks think they’re in for a lame time 😎
These aren’t hard stats my friend, it’s Consumer Reports.
You really have a bone to pick this evening, huh? Grab a beer and relax my friend.
Yes, and I’m deliberately wondering because it is self-reported data. Data that relies on an accurate assessment from whoever is doing the repair as well as the owner. Both of which are brand new to the tech if you’re picking first year models.
The only actual data you have is the percentage of problems being reported.
Re-read your page on reliability history, the scores aren’t much of a measurement and are derived from some in-house weighting of several things including comparison against other vehicles.
I’ll take the 3% as-is, but part of me is wondering if “battery problems” may be a catch-all for other self-reported electrical problems. It’d be alarmingly close to “moving goalposts” to assert anything, though.
The Prius is a solid vehicle but let’s not pretend that you don’t have to replace the battery after several years… it’s a small battery, it gets a lot of wear. It’s also a few thousand dollars.
Sure, a PHEV battery a bit larger and might postpone things a bit longer but why sign up for a future guaranteed replacement item?
If you’re going to snark, do understand your sources first. Consumer Reports uses a “what they think will happen” for the reliability of a given item, it is not a wholly objective figure. They aren’t stats.
It’s a wonderful tool for a purchasing decision where you want to be cautious and consider the worst case scenario but it isn’t useful as a tool for much else.
Considering the vehicles you chose have low volume, do understand something:
How Many Samples Does CR Have of Each Model?
A typical vehicle has about 200 to 300 samples for each model year. When we have small sample sizes for models, we may use brand history and the reliability of similar models that may share major components to determine our predictions.
Your stats prove you can cherry-pick among the notoriously worst of brands for electrification, but not anywhere near the point you want to make.
The concern is that you have basically two different drivetrains to worry about, where if either fail you’re (potentially, depending on what/where/etc fails) without an operational vehicle at worst.
I’m sorry but this just sounds like trying to justify a potentially already-made PHEV purchase more than anything by cherry-picking strange bits of data.
Try Hyundai or Tesla instead of picking literally the worst brands lol
You chose GM and Chrysler as your reliability targets…………
A 40mi PHEV battery is getting a lot more wear put on it from going 0-100% than a 300mi battery that’ll bounce between 50-80%
Wow, the NYTimes is being completely disappointing by failing to mention FERC Order 2023, which was a big change meant to help this.
There’s a 2 GW backlog of renewable energy that’s waiting to be plugged in, so to speak:
https://blog.advancedenergyunited.org/ferc_order_2023_101
This rule change is supposed to accelerate connecting these backlogged (and future) projects to the grid a lot faster.
I’m not disputing anyone buying something off Alibaba, but not everyone is rushing to Alibaba to buy a vehicle and have it freight’d over.
Increased tariffs are already on the radar of the Biden administration:
This is also why BYD is looking at manufacturing in Mexico, to reduce export costs:
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Tesla-rival-BYD-weighs-EV-plant-in-Mexico
And even if BYD were to manufacture in Mexico, costs may be significantly higher than China because they’d have to be compliant with the USMCA when procuring materials.
It doesn’t matter what they’re priced at overseas.
There is zero political incentive to vaporize the auto industry by allowing it.
The Democrats likely can’t because they’d lose UAW support in multiple swing states.
The Republicans can’t because they can either try to use this to gain support from auto union members and/or vocally use this for increased tariffs.
And I’d wager that neither wants to be in charge if the auto industry goes on a decline.
We are never going to see a brand new $10k EV.
It’s time to be realistic.
We haven’t had new vehicles for $10k in almost (over?) 20 years
I can guarantee there will be even more tariffs on low cost imports because the auto manufacturers and auto unions aren’t going to let that segment of American manufacturing vanish.
There’s been a lot of noise about it for sure but it helps blast away the notion of EVs being entirely unaffordable now.
For example, you could walk away paying ~$16k for a 2022 Tesla Model 3 Long Range if you qualify for the EV tax credit: https://www.hertzcarsales.com/certified/Tesla/2022-Tesla-Model+3-cd3e616c0a0e084c73d221de15ea7f83.htm
If you told me that 2 years ago, I wouldn’t believe you.