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How about, instead of trying to invert existing injustices by replacing patriarchy with matriarchy, we instead tried to move past them entirely, striving for a post-gender society where gender identity has no influence whatsoever on rights, respect and opportunities?
I have seen evidence of a hierarchy in most communities regardless of what gender is in power…
Which communities have you seen where women dominate? I can’t really think of any.
The Haudenosaunee
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought I remembered that it was more like men and women had authority over distinct parts of society, not that women ruled over men in a general sense.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
Women in society
The Iroquois have historically followed a matriarchal system…Traditionally, the Clan Mothers appoint leaders, as they have raised children and are therefore held to a higher regard. By the same token, if a leader does not prove sound, becomes corrupt or does not listen to the people, the Clan Mothers have the power to strip him of his leadership…The Iroquois have traditionally followed a matrilineal system, and hereditary leadership passes through the female line of descent, that is, from a mother to her children
The Iroquois have historically followed a matriarchal system…Traditionally, the Clan Mothers appoint leaders, as they have raised children and are therefore held to a higher regard. By the same token, if a leader does not prove sound, becomes corrupt or does not listen to the people, the Clan Mothers have the power to strip him of his leadership…The Iroquois have traditionally followed a matrilineal system, and hereditary leadership passes through the female line of descent, that is, from a mother to her children.
So a man is the leader then.
I like how you deliberately cut out the part that said basically what I wrote lol
Nursing for one, teaching for another. I’ve known people in both fields, they’re extremely female-dominated and extremely hierarchical, just in the social politics.
Eh, I have known some women who are pretty obsessed with being queen bees. Hierarchy isn’t just a male thing.
Pink Patriarchy isn’t a valid response to the Patriarchy.
Modern radical feminism has some serious misandry issues that need to be worked out on a personal level.
Bigotry and hierarchy will never help women or men, and only helps the Patriarchy.
Your daily dose of class dividing by butterfly.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3826202/
On the whole, women are just sneaky how they go about being shitty to one another. Men are just louder about it.
Oh good I’m not the only one who notices this about Butterfly?
They pretend like they’re wholesome and use that position to push some hate.
What’s the deal with this sub? I’m an idiot who uses Sync so I can’t see the sidebar, but I get the impression from the posts I come across that sexism is explicitly allowed here.
There is very little content on Lemmy. Butterfly has scheduled posts (I’m making an assumption but she posts pretty much daily to many subs) every day on this sub and it’s 75% of the content.
Much of what you see is a function of low volume more so than the community.
Hurt people hurt people.
Not always true. Some people just enjoy hurting others.
And some hurt people don’t want others to have to experience the hurt.
I can say, having been a part of “non hierarchical” communities where women and afabs and have been like 90% of the members, that really isn’t always the case
Margaret Thatcher and Indira Gandhi have entered the chat
Two people don’t make a controlling system.
Exhaustive lists don’t make for tidy counterpoints.
First let’s just look at the implied statement
maternal hierarchy isn’t a hierarchy
X to doubt.
Secondly, a not-hierarchy (anarchy) is not optimally a circle but a preferably dense web of connections
