• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    15 天前

    We have a law that at least one non-alcoholic drink must be cheaper than the cheapest alcoholic drink.

    Some places offer milk for that, and if you try to order it, they tell you: sorry, it has gone bad.

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            15 天前

            They have the item on the menu and it’s cheaper; they have complied with the law.

            The law mentions nothing about required stock. Perhaps they can offer a single glass before they are out. Therefore they have complied with malicious intent.

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      15 天前

      Wow, places don’t have coke? Or coke costs more than the cheapest alcoholic drink?

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        I’m not a regular pub visitor (I don’t drink alcohol), but a soda is usually at par or slightly more expensive than a beer.

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          Is the beer cheap or the soda expensive?

          I just looked up a random place here. A normal bottle of Heineken costs $12, a coke, red bull, ginger beer, etc all cost $6.50.

          This is in NZD, so that’s a little under $7 USD for the Heineken, a little under $4 for the non-alcoholics.

          These prices include all taxes, including an alcohol tax.

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            I just picked a random pub in the next city: Beer, 0.2l €2.30; Coca Cola 0.3l €3.60 - includes taxes and service.

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              15 天前

              Wait, is this a size difference thing? I’d expect both the beer and coke to be a pint (0.5l), but your beer is tiny 😆

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                That kind of beer is served in 0.2l glasses historically. You can get it in 0.3l in some places, but ordering it this way shows you are clueless / not native.

                Some beers here go to 0.5l, but those are the bottled ones.

                0.3l for a soda is normal here, 0.5l is large, as in LARGE. This is not America…

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                  Haha yeah you wouldn’t get any bigger than 0.5l coke and it’s not uncommon to get 330ml as in a can of coke poured into a glass. 0.5l is definitely a big coke!

                  What kind of beer is it?

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            15 天前

            There’s a place near me that has 75 cent tappers (like 10oz).

            A soda is 1.25 for 12 oz.

            It’s the beer that is cheap in this case. It’s basically sold at cost because the owner isn’t real bright and thinks the added traffic is worth only breaking even.

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            15 天前

            Here in colombia a red bull costs 3x the cost of a beer. Soda is cheaper though. Beers are about $1 and red bulls are about $3.

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              TBH I was surprised to see red bull is the same price as coke, I was expecting it to cost more. Almost certainly costs them more to buy it.

              I’d never expect any non-alcoholic drinks to cost more than the alcoholic ones though, hence my surprise.

              We have alcohol tax and GST (VAT) but together they might add 35% to the price, not enough to make beer cheaper.

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      15 天前

      We’ve got something similar.

      Any place that serves alcohol must offer free water.

      Sometimes you need to explicitly ask for tap water, to ensure its the free stuff.

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        Ugh, I hate this. So annoying to order water only to be given a bottle of it that’s somehow 4$. If I wanted to pay 4$ I would’ve at least ordered a real drink, bottled water often isn’t better than tap anyways.

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        15 天前

        You must not be in America. Was thinking the other day that they no longer automatically bring you ice water before taking your drink order. No idea when that changed, but it used to be expected at every sort of restaurant.

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          Are you in a place affected by drought? Whenever the water situation gets bad in California, they make the restaurants not give water unless requested.

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    15 天前

    As a good rule of thumb any place that serves large quantities of alcohol is probably going to serve a number of drinks that are usually mixed with alcohol. So cranberry juice or seltzer water and the like. So at the very least those are always going to be options.

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    I find that more and more places have a full non alcoholic list. As someone who is 6 years sober, it’s nice to see it grow.

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      Even if I know what ingredients they use, I might not know how to make any good nonalcoholic drinks with the ones they have. That’s the point of having a menu.

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            14 天前

            If you’re going to complain about God giving his strongest warriors his greatest challenges on the Internet, you’ll get a call out 🤷‍♂️

            Like honestly, how much more absolutely helpless could you be? This is stuff my toddler literally can handle at a restaurant.

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    15 天前

    just go to shitty restaurants that have those coke freestyle machines. you’ll die of heart disease from eating fast food all the time, or maybe complications from diabetes from all that soda, but you’ll have options. Or maybe just drink water

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        Mixing 7-up, Sprite, and Minute Maid lemonade to make the uLtiMatE citrus soda always felt like cheating the system as a kid