The country of stubborn boomers that want to have their cake and eat it

  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    4 小时前

    The damage control for the next US President is not achievable in one term. The population will expect it and vote them out, but they gotta dig out of a deep hole before they can start digging out of the legacy hole.

    It’s either that, or “vivat Romae” on the final day as they continue infiltrating other country’s economies at full scale.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgOP
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      4 小时前

      The US won’t be alright even after a few dem presidents. There are way deeper issues.

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        3 小时前

        Hmm. I forgot US voters don’t actually have a great choice…

        Hey. Voting for the least shittiest option is a start for the people, yeah? 👍 Chin up! They’ve done it a few times, they’ll do it again. Hopefully not needing a WW to piggyback on this time, despite all current attempts.

        Accountability and freedom and all of that stuff that made the world envious of the idea for a good run! It’s still there and always has been!!

        Remember the Constitution! (And the amendments… definitely need those…in their literal form too… Plenty that could be enacted rn)

        • Zorque@lemmy.world
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          48 分钟前

          The biggest thing is voting in every election, not just generals or presidential elections. Primaries, local, special elections… they all have abyssmal turnout. Which is generally why the US has such awful choices… they only show up for the final decision, not every decision leading up to it.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      4 小时前

      The damage control for the next US President is not achievable in one term.

      it never is. But then, you guys get all pissy when everything isn’t fixed immediately and you throw the bums back in to make it worse.

      but only 100% of the time.

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    6 小时前

    Car, Power, Electricity, they’re all falling behind. US is doing so many stupid laws right now because it’s the last place that the lobbies are desperately holding onto. Rest of the world has already been moving away, and the companies know it. Now the shareholders are starting to know it. You literally can’t beat free electricity from the sun. They could only prolong it so long, and you can tell they’re desperate with forcing the US to act against it’s best interest.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgOP
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      6 小时前

      Sure he does but it’s weird to use this homoerotic image as something bad. This is me being a bit annoying, but it irks me since I’ve heard the phrase for the first time

      • waz@feddit.uk
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        5 小时前

        That’s assuming you know that Germans use eggs to mean testicles. I only learned this trying to joke with a German colleague that the red headed guy in our office was ‘ingver-klerten’ Without realising that they don’t use ginger to mean a colour, or nuts to mean balls/testicles. In English ‘licking eggs’ is just a slow way to have breakfast.

          • waz@feddit.uk
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            1 小时前

            Yeah I got it too, but to only native English speakers, licks eggs is mostly only literal.

            I still like ingverklerten as an idea though, even if it is wrong. Like the other one we tried, ‘glockenende’ to mean ‘bellend’

      • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world
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        5 小时前

        So is China.

        China and all the governments in the world can do whatever they want and I’m still driving German cars powered by gasoline or renewable fuels.

        • sexy_peach@feddit.orgOP
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          4 小时前

          I mean I agree, china is behind the curve a bit but they’ll have the same demographic problems soon. It will get really interesting, I wonder if they’ll have internal unrest or try to keep the population together by looking for external enemies.

          But still, no reason to sundown the country that calls me a citizen and that most of my friends live in.

          • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world
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            3 小时前

            China has a birth rate of one child per woman, Japan is at .7 last I read. Most of the developed world is sun downing but with Japans stance on immigration they’re in worse shape.

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                3 小时前

                I thought a lot of Europe could correct their decline through immigration once it started people started voting to remove them.

                Can a country as industrial and as large as China bring in enough people to combat the decline?

                • sexy_peach@feddit.orgOP
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                  3 小时前

                  China probably can’t do it. I doubt they would want that as well! They’re fairly homogeneous, right?

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 小时前

    The solution to “falling behind China” is to close off our economy from the Chinese economy, isolate the Chinese economy from its neighbors, stir up violent opposition to Chinese government and policies both on its borders and within its interior, and accuse anyone doing business with China of abetting genocide and organ theft and Far-Left Communist ideologies.

    If a country continues to do business with China, we will associate it with the crimes of the Chinese government in the same manner. Russia, Brazil, Iran, Indonesia, big chunks of the EU, I guess now Canada - all increasingly on the US shit-list for reasons tangential to the amount of business they’re doing with China.

    Eventually, we will need to go to war with China (or, at least, launch a series of proxy wars all along the Chinese border that can bleed the country into bankruptcy). But for the time being, we will content ourselves to vilifying its leadership, sanctioning its trade, and picking fights with its regional allies.

    And this will work, because it’s never not worked before now.

    Trust The Plan.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgOP
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      4 小时前

      What are you on about? China is Germany’s biggest trade partner and most people here like what they produce. And that’s fair enough since they do a good job. But let’s be real there’s nothing wrong with for example having tariffs on products that the manufacturing powerhouse china deliberately sell at a loss to gain monopolies. It’s in their 5 year plan and kudos for them for having such outlook, Germany certainly lacks planning that far ahead (or any planning tbh, we have a conservative government atm cries).

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        there’s nothing wrong with for example having tariffs on products that the manufacturing powerhouse china deliberately sell at a loss to gain monopolies

        Chinese firms don’t sell at a loss. Western firms operate with oversized profit margins. The labor and materials that go into a Chinese EV or a solar panel or a plastic widget or steel girders are all globally commoditized. What separates Chinese exports from EU domestic products are rents. Enormous, economy-crippling rents.

        And that’s what these tariffs seek to protect.

        Germany certainly lacks planning that far ahead

        Germany has plenty of economic planning. It’s just happening in the Zurich banking industry, not the Berlin parliament. The goal of German policy is to maximize profit per unit of labor, rather than value per unit of materials.

        That Germans are revolting at the domestic plan stems from these strangling profit margins.

        • Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world
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          The EU disagrees with you after a thorough investigation. China has been giving its EV manufacturers massive state subsidies for a long time now, this is not news to most of us, just you for some reason…

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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            The EU disagrees with you after a thorough investigation.

            Police investigating themselves inevitably find the people they are policing were in the wrong.

            China has been giving its EV manufacturers massive state subsidies for a long time now

            Chinese manufacturers benefit from the state investment in infrastructure and the at-cost production of utilities through SOEs. They produce professionals out of universities funded with state tax dollars who do not carry enormous personal debts. They have a large high speed transportation network that reduces delivery delays and mobilizes much of the idle workforce.

            In any other country, we’d acknowledge this as capital investments in the economy at-large. In China, we pretend that this is some kind of unfair business advantage.