That’s quite an escalation, and you demonstrated my point excellently. You’re not gonna bring more people to your point of view by being nasty, you’re only driving them away.

The problem is when said research runs you straight to a bunch of nasty people over and over. Really dampens enthusiasm when trying to get into something. Veganism is not something I personally want to get into (I’m not opposed, I just read threads to get other perspectives on things in general), but I observe the same behaviour in vegan threads as I do in other communities with die-hard enthusiasts for things that I am into. The same behaviour is also in Linux communities which makes me hesitate to recommend it to people, because it has a toxic shithead problem.

Kinda like when you look up a problem and the first thing you run into is a guy telling the op that they’re a moron and to just google it

Gatekeepers are the fucking worst. Every time I start reading up on something there’s always a handful of miserable condescending shitheads being nasty to people because they’re 'not ‘doing it right.’

Most vegan threads I come across usually has some of these, insulting anyone that’s not 100% on board even if they’re trying to get into it. Audiophiles are pretty much on the same level as hardcore vegans when it comes to being obnoxious (recently saw someone ask why the op was bothering setting up a music system if they didn’t have thousands of dollars to spare, for example). Linux users on support threads is a coin flip of whether they’ll be helpful or insulting.

Let people ease into things, stop demanding perfection right out of the gates!

Revolt has apparently been renamed to Stoat after being sent a cease and desist for the name

So, your solution to “ease onboarding” is to give newcomers more work? For a platform with far less content that’s already confusing them with just signing up, let alone figuring out transfering or self hosting?

I think you VASTLY overestimate how many fucks people have to give, and also how tech literate the average person is. The average person can barely figure out how to change their web browser, and most really don’t care about the awful shit big companies do.

This idea of yours would drive engagement through the floor and a respectable distance into the Earth’s crust.

Ease of use should be the #1 consideration when it comes to onboarding people to something.

Because I’m not allowed in the morgue anymore.

Is it “working splendidly?” They’re getting almost everything they want, so clearly it’s working for them.

It’s more fun than that, even if you get one there’s no guarantee they’ll be any good!

Gotta love doctors who ignore you and give you painkillers to make you go away, and can’t read the bold text on forms you pay them to fill out.

How dare you say we can’t be civil?! The fucking nerve!

(very, VERY big /S)

I prefer getting my news from cryptic symbolism in my dreams

Good plan, I already had investment in VR before I went to Linux so I’m not really wanting to scrap all of it, you know?

The only reason I still have to have Windows on a spare drive is VR. I have a Vive Cosmos and as far as I can tell there is just flat out no support for Linux.

In my case it’s because I can’t get hardware that supports it without paying a fortune for importing. The other option is ancient hardware that most likely has a cooked battery that I’d have to hunt for in a used market.

Then there’s the lack of VoLTE support on a lot of models which is becoming a non-starter as carriers are taking down the 3G towers.

That’s before I’ve even gotten to try the software which I’m not hearing great things about.

It’s not popular because it’s an enthusiast niche at best. Linux mobile needs more time in the oven before it’s ready, by my measurement another couple of decades.

Been this way for a while now. I turn that shit off every time I do a new install.

We all got choices, that’s what I like about Linux. KDE seems to run great for most people, for me it always seems to bug out and act super janky (the panel editor in particular would bug out and crash constantly, I could never get the damn thing to where I liked it). If it was more stable for me I’d probably use it, I love customizing my system. I’ve tried making it work a few times, never seems to click.

GNOME’s extensions may break on updates from time to time but my day to day experience with it is much nicer. While more rigid it’s a lot more polished and doesn’t crash out on me just using the interface. I like the layout of it. I’m glad KDE works for so many of you guys, but I’ll stick with GNOME until a better option comes around.

That said, if anyone has a better suggestion for a desktop environment I’m all ears.

Bringing my own snark back in line here for some actual discussion, throwing out a different perspective as food for thought.

The line he’s using has been pretty memed so that’s why I said blatant. A quick scroll through history showed some shots taken towards conservatives and maga and not really anything supporting far right.

Being hostile to people who don’t see the point of adding sarcasm tags isn’t so much helpful as making it an unpleasant place to be in, and adding “I gave you a chance” when you’re also some shmuck on the internet like the rest of us comes across incredibly condescending. Especially when it’s not exactly a “rule” on the internet to tag your content with a sarcasm tag. Even if the intent is good, it’s just digging the hole deeper. It’s not just the other guy who sees it, it’s everyone else.

Some people respond well to being asked, few if any respond well to being told to do things by randoms, especially if followed by hostility. If your goal is for someone to change what they’re doing you have to consider how they will interpret you asking. Some people will double down but how that’s responded to also contributes to how other people will react when asked in future.

Lemmy is small but also does itself no favours by being incredibly hostile to new users (in particular people who come from Reddit, which drives me nuts as Lemmy seems to function as a Reddit alternative by all outside appearances). That’s anecdotal but I see it all the time here. In the same vein I also see a lot of calls for violence.

We’re vulnerable to being taken over by reactionaries but going overboard on random people for memes is just going to drive normal people out and keep the reactionaries in. It just seems to be an issue that’s compounding and I don’t really have a good solution, we’re living in fucked up times

Genuinely interested, but any time I look into it it requires hardware that’s expensive to import or many years out of date.

The oldest phone I still have lying around is my Pixel 7 that was my initial jump into GrapheneOS, I haven’t found any distros that are compatible with a Pixel newer than a 4a. If anyone knows of a compatible distro I’d make the jump.

It was pretty blatant sarcasm.

Maybe next time we can ask him to spell it out in crayon for the main character in the room.

I’m well aware of the statistics. Doesn’t mean I want to go directly to places where highly unstable people congregate. “Cars kill more people so the meth dens are safer” isn’t a great sales pitch. My point is that quality of transit is dependant on where you live and isn’t always the magical solution it’s painted as, as much as I wish it was.

I always wonder how much nicer transit is in other cities. One of the last times I took the train here there was still blood smeared across the wall from a stabbing that had happened a couple weeks earlier (it was one of many that year). Every time I drive by the train stations there’s people smoking meth in the open, or someone screaming at people.

As much as I’d like to take transit, there’s not a whole lot I can do to make it safer. I vote for the parties that might make things better but get outvoted every time here. So how exactly does one “take personal responsibility” in an area where public transit is a safety hazard?

The drivers in this area are all selfish fucks that actively endanger everyone around them… bonus points 60% of them drive a great big emotional support truck. So it really is a choice between the idiots on the road or the methheads on the street, pick your favourite flavour of hazard.