

Okay, next find the one where the kid doesn’t get consent from the remote control…
Nope. I don’t talk about myself like that.


Okay, next find the one where the kid doesn’t get consent from the remote control…


So much fear mongering and incorrect statements… and I’m only 3 minutes in. I can’t…
Nearly all encryption mechanism currently in use on the modern internet is quantum resistant. Breaking RSA-2048 would require millions of stable, error-corrected qubits. I believe the biggest systems right now are at 500 bits at most.
The NIST Post-Quantum Cryptography project has finalized new quantum-resistant algorithms like CRYSTALS-Kyber and Dilithium. These will replace RSA and ECC long before practical quantum attacks exist. Migration has already started.
Symmetric cryptography is mostly safe. Algorithms like AES, SHA-2, SHA-3, and similar remain secure against quantum attacks. Grover’s algorithm can halve their effective key strength. Example: AES-256 becomes as secure as AES-128 against a quantum attacker. To crack on AES-128 hash with current efficiency you need ~88TW of power… Even if we make it 10 or 100x more efficient over time… It’s too expensive. We don’t have the resources to power anything big enough to crack aes-128… The biggest nuclear reactor (Taishan) only puts out a mere 1,660MWe…
It’s not happening in our lifetimes. and probably not at all until we start harvesting stars.
Edit: Several typos.
Edit 2: For the AES-256 example that get’s reduced to AES-128. It would take implementing efficiencies that reduce power usage by 1000x (there’s a few methods that might get worked out in our lifetimes… lets just take them as functional right now). Then you’d need 55 of the biggest nuclear reactors we have on the planet… Then you wait a year for the computer to finish the compute. That decrypts one key.
Weaker keys might be a problem. Sure. But by the time we’re there… it won’t matter. For things like Singal, Matrix, or anything else that’s actively developed… Someone might store the conversation on some massive datacenter out there… And might decrypt it 200 years from now. That’s your “risk”… Long after everyone reading this message is dead.
Edit 3: Because I hadn’t looked at it in a few months… I decided to check in on Let’s Encrypt’s (LE) “answer” to it. Since that’s what most people here are probably interested in and using. First… remember that Let’s Encrypt rotates keys every 90 days. So for your domain, there’s 4 keys a year to crack at a minimum. Except that acme services like to register near the halfway point… So more realistically 8 keys a year to decrypt a years worth of data. But it turns out that browsers already have the PQC projects done… And many certificate registrars already support it as well. OpenSSL also supports it from 3.5.0+…
https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/roadmap-request-post-quantum-cryptography/231143/9
https://developers.cloudflare.com/ssl/post-quantum-cryptography/pqc-support/
Apparently LE is even moving to MUCH shorter certs… https://letsencrypt.org/2025/02/20/first-short-lived-cert-issued 6 days… So a new key every half-week (remember acme clients want to renew about halfway through the cycle)… or ~100 keys a year to break. Even TODAY, you’re not going to need to worry about “weak” encryption for decades. It will take time for the quantum resources to come available… it will take time to go through the backlog of keys that they are interested in decrypting EVEN IF they’re storing 100% of data somewhere. You WILL be long dead before they can even have the opportunity to care about you and your data… The “200 years from now” above reference… is assuming that humans can literally harvest suns for power and break really really big problems in the quantum field. It’s really going to be on the order of millennia if not longer before your message to your mom from last year gets decrypted. LE doesn’t have PQC on the roadmap quite yet… Probably because they understand there’s still some time before it even matters and they want to wait a bit until the cryptography around the new mechanisms is more hashed out.
Edit4: At this point I feel that this post needs a TL;DR…
If you’re scared… rotate keys regularly, the more you rotate, the more keys will have to be broken to get the whole picture… Acme services (Let’s Encrypt) already do this. You’ll be fine with current day technology long after (probably millennia) your dead. No secret you’re hiding will matter 1000 years from now.
Edit5: Fuck… I need to stop thinking about this… but I just want to point out one more thing… It’s actually likely that in the next 100 (let alone 1000s of years) that a few bits will rot in your data on their cluster that they’re storing. So even IF they manage to store it… and manage to get a cluster big enough that either takes so little power that they can finally power it… or get a power source that can rival literal suns. A few bits flipped here and there will happen… Your messages and data will start to scramble over time just by the very nature of… well… nature… Every sunflare. Every gravitational anomaly. Every transmission from space or gamma particle… has a chance to OOPS a 0 into a 1 or vice versa. Think of every case you’ve heard of Amazon or Facebook accidentally breaking BGP for their whole service and they’re down for hours… Over the course of 100 years… your data will likely just die, or get lost, be forgotten, get broken, etc… The longer it takes for them to figure this out (and science is NOT on their side on this matter) the less likely they even have a chance to recover anything, let alone decrypt it in a timely matter to resolve anything in our lifetimes.


Nah, we know they can move gates. Russia had the second gate and we had to rent it for a while if you remember.


Right, got it.
Or just be judgmental yourself?
And skip on both other options completely.
A person admitting that they recognize their own issues isn’t automatically self-hate. I harbor no hate for myself. I recognize that my weight is a medical issue and that I need to control it. No part of my choice to actively recognize my issues is self-hate. However, I find your interest in categorizing MY feelings as quite disgusting behavior.


That’s quite interesting respond… The next part after “harbor no actual hate” is me talking about my own weight issues.
Apparently the qualifier of my own issues is “insert stupid here”.
Are you actually going to add something to the discussion? Address any of the points? Or just be judgmental yourself?


I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
Since you apparently are unable to read, I’ll repost this portion of my comment just for you.
I’m 100% aware of my own problems and am dealing with them.
I would highly suggest you work on your reading skills before pointing fingers of your own next time.
I’ve shared it on lemmy before somewhere…
Yeah found it… This thread. https://lemmy.saik0.com/post/1588364
For the stuff I do… it’s not overkill at all. By a metric of any individual’s house… yeah… it’s pretty overkill.
Then yes, you’d probably be fine with any competent minipc and your favorite flavor of firewall… I would recommend OPNSense personally, but there’s others out there that I’m sure would meet your needs.
Just about any decent minipc can handle 1gbps from what I’ve seen a few years ago. You need much bigger horses to get up to 10gbps. But wouldn’t know what the minimum specs would be… I’ve been stuck in the higher end world for a while… So that information has kind of vanished from my memory… Someone else can chime in? I suspect the little baby n150 units could probably do 1gbps. Especially since you’re only doing minimal throughput on your wireguard as well (I have a few nodes and can push into 1gbps, so once again I’m resource heavy… and thus don’t have the lower requirements committed to memory anymore).
ISP -> ARRIS modem -> minipc -> Switch -> anything else you need including access points.
All of the “routers” that have wifi and a boatload of ports (unless we’re talking enterprise stuff) are all hybrid devices that are router+switch+AP, this is convenient for typical consumers, but quite restrictive for those who want to go prosumer or higher. For example… Wifi 7 just released last year. I swapped my AP out and now I have it. I can also mount that AP into the ceiling where it will give me the best coverage. Rather than the consumer answers of “replace the whole unit” or “add a shitton of mesh nodes that ultimately kind of suck” solutions that manufacturers love cause you spend more money on their products. Or other answers like you want to add a PoE device… well now that consumer unit is useless to you.


I reject the analogy. I’ve already stated the options any normal person would have had that would have kept them alive… and those options are quite simple of “walk to the neighbor’s house”.
Once again, I’m GOING to sound hateful, even though I harbor no actual hate (do what you want with your life… but there’s consequences to everything). I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
It’s even worse in this case as it’s well understood that fat people hold heat longer. The fat acts as a literal barrier to shedding heat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30454605/
With your argument… since being fat in of itself is never on a death certificate, it’s impossible to die for being fat. It’s always cardio issues, diabetes, kidney, or airway issues… That’s nonsense. Those issues existed because of the persons obesity. Why would this situation be any different than the others?
Edit: Calling 911 would have also been an option once he started overheating… So I also have to wonder about the family members part of the situation. And his own inability to dial 3 digits on his phone as well.
We’re missing crucial information.
What bandwidth do you get from your ISP? Do you want to run things like IDS/IPS? what kind of throughput do you want from wireguard?
What it takes to connect a 100/10 DOCSIS based service is completely different to a 1/100 service is completely different to an 8/8gbps fiber service.
You said wireguard on the modem… your modem shouldn’t be doing any routing of tunnels at all. I’m almost suspecting that you don’t know what the difference between a router and modem is because of this “misspeak”. If you don’t, you need to go watch some networking basics youtube videos and get a firm understanding before you commit to buying stuff that you have no idea what you’re doing with.
In my case, I’m blessed with 8/8 fiber. I have a full fancy supermicro server running opnsense. 10gbps on the wan side, 40gbps on the lan side for multiple vlans (about a dozen). It’s overkill because my ISP offers it… but that means that the “router” I’m using to use the 8gbps is also ~$2k cost to do it. With big bandwidth comes big processing overhead if you want to do any form of protection and tunneling (VPN or SDN).
You shouldn’t really care how many interfaces your router has outside of potentially doing LACP sort of redundancy. Use a switch to get more ports for your devices.


No, as “hateful” as it sounds… I’d say primary cause as well. Nothing stopped them from walking to their neighbors house and asking them if they could stick it out there for a bit since their A/C went out… Well… except for the walking part.
They had family coming and checking on him regularly. If he wasn’t so fat that he couldn’t get out of bed, he’d have just gone to their house… No? Clearly they cared. They installed a window A/C.
Inaction over the course of 2 days is was killed this man, the cause of inaction was his weight. His family obviously determined that they couldn’t move him… and he couldn’t move himself.
Edit: To the point, I also live in AZ. I have a really big solar install that lets me run my house off grid and islanded (with many hours of battery as well). I’ve told my neighbors they should come over during outages. People understand what A/C means here in this state. This family shouldn’t have been blind-sided by the problem. It would have been his inability to get out of bed that limited options.
Sure, but my point is that it’s no different to an AUR/user repo. At some point you’re just trusting someone else.
I think the whole “Don’t put bash scripts into a terminal” is too broad. It’s the same risk factor as any blind trust in ANY repository. If you trust the repo then what does it matter if you install the program via repo or bash script. It’s the same. In this specific case though, I trust the repo pretty well. I’ve read well more than half of the lines of code I actually run. When tteck was running it… he was very very sensitive about what was added and I had 100% faith in it. Since the community took it over after his death it seems like we’re still pretty well off… but it’s been growing much faster than I can keep up with.
But none of these issues are any different than installing from AUR.
The rule should just be “don’t run shit from untrusted sources” which could include AUR/repo sources.


No they didn’t…
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/25099-pixel-10-still-too-early-to-ask-us-when-it-will-be-supported
Our Pixel 10 support will likely only be possible to complete after we finish porting to Android 16 QPR1 which is being released in September.
They don’t know IF they can even support it until they figure out the new releases that are jacking up their dev cycle.
It will be significantly more work than usual to support the new Pixel 10 phones since Android 16 removed the Pixel device trees from the Android Open Source Project. However, that was already only part of what we need for device support and we worked around it by expanding our automated tooling.
This is exactly the issue I’m referencing. Google can completely sabotage this route. We don’t know yet.
Edit: I should clarify that they did say they’re trying to continue, but should they not be able to crack the device tree issues they will be stuck. Nothing they released said that they’ve figured this issue out yet.
Eh… I have my own repo that pulls the PVE repo and updates a bunch of things to how I want them to be and then runs a local version of the main page. While I don’t stare at every update they make… There’s likely enough of us out there looking at the scripts that we’d sound some alarms if something off was happening.
AUR repo items don’t necessarily clean themselves up properly either. So I’m not sure why you think that’s part of some requirement for the scripts if we’re comparing the 2.
Edit: But in the case of this specific repo… You delete the lxc or vm that you created.


Well the assumption is that the Graphene team will be able to maintain non-store app installs. There’s recent news that Google is no longer providing update packages the way they used to which will make it harder on Graphene to update stuff too.
We can’t assume that Google’s next update will not functionally block the ability for GrapheneOS as well.
There is no functional difference to piping a script vs running an AUR or other user repository install.
Dijon mustard and relish for me.


But we don’t live in a perfect world in many parents are absolute garbage. Many have absolutely zero technological literacy and when it comes to the parental controls that are in place, many of them are wonky or break or absolute crap and prone to failure.
So instead of making laws that mandate companies make these features better/easier/etc… we should make the internet significantly worse and more dangerous for the other 75% of the planet?
I have a split-brain DNS system. My young kids are whitelisted to specific school related sites and games that I choose. I NAT rewrite ALL outgoing DNS queries so it hits only my DNS server. And I block all known DoH and other “secure” DNS services. It wouldn’t be hard for an ISP or router manufacturer to setup a system like that, put some polish on it and tie it into their ISP app that they make people install these days. It could be a one click solution. I’m thinking a pop-up from the ISP app when a new device joins the network “What type of device is this?” if they click child apply all the blocks that the parent configured that they want to have block for their kids when they setup the service/router. Hell none of it even needs to call a mothership even. Can pull the same pihole lists that people already generate for this shit.
Force the companies to provide the solutions for parents to use if they want to. That’s the better answer. Not to mandate age gates everywhere that won’t work anyway.
Some porn sites were already age gated in that you needed a credit card to access… that shit never worked either. Regardless of the system the government forces, the better answer will always be to give parents more tools with lower thresholds of knowledge to use the tool.
If you guys need an office pre-furnished with a desk and couch. I got you guys.