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It’s also worth considering that Poland too, was “allied with the nazi’s” when it invaded and occupied parts of the Czech republic in concert with the nazi offensive. However, I’d never go as far as to say something like “Poland weren’t the victims in WW2” or that “the USSR halting polonization by liberating polish occupied belarus was a good thing” to go out of my way specifically to “bait anarkiddies” – Unless I wanted to simply encourage leftist infighting, of course?

I’ll be honest. dbzer0 confuses me as an instance. I’d prefer to consider them friends - fellow travellers trying to eventually make our way to the same end point - but seeing things like the admins condoning “genocide denial as bait for tankies” or “transphobia is fine on dbzer0 as long as the target is a tankie” is pretty wild.

Brilliant idea. I’m sure he’ll be the first to sign up to work for the council or the police for free.

These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to “retaliate” against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They’re basically modern V1/V2 rockets “This will terrify the russian population into submission!!”

^ yep

Why are you linking an actual propaganda thinktank as an example as of Uyghur Genocide?

You could link any source, but you link one that is staffed by people who’s careers have been purely to lie about American’s enemies and push American interests?? I hope you’re a little sharper than that and you’re just linking that because you hope other people will swallow anything.

“HEY GUYS THIS ORGANIZATION THAT IS PAID TO TELL ME THAT CHINA IS BAD, GET THIS, SAYS CHINA IS BAD!!”

Come on bud.

Hexbear - “that’s true, I see how our culture can be hard to decipher”

Lemmylib - “you guys are huge dicks without provocation”

Hexbear - oh well fuck you then :)

Lemmylib - “see, so hostile!”

If we respond to people being needlessly aggro with quip derision it’s “so uncivil!” If we respond to people in good faith by trying to explain our differing views it’s “wow im not going to read that!”

So what should we do?

Most civil and good faith lemmylib.

Americans can call the sky green as much as they want. In the rest of the world, Liberalism = Liberalism, not “democrat”.

Liberals are people that believe in liberalism, which can be summed up as “everyone has the individual right to be an asshole, even if it fucks everyone else over”.

Fascism is only a vibe, and the vibe is “something CmdrShepard disagrees with”

This is revisionist, river rock stacking and outdoor cats are strictly forbidden.

Nah we clock in early.

“hexbear is toxic”

You’re likely getting that response because Hexbear has developed it’s own culture of having earnest conversations that are intended to enrich and inform the users taking part in the discussion.

The derisive, dismissive responses are a reaction to someone breaking that etiquette by grandstanding, accusing people of logical fallacies, or resorting to insults: these are things that indicate that the person isn’t sincerely interested in trying to understand the person they are speaking to.

That’s the second person from hexbear that you didn’t realise at the time of posting. You’re going to have to get better at spotting us if we’re so awful.

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

There’s no reason to be afraid of people engaging with your opinion.

There’s no “brigading”, it’s simply a large instance of people who can see active threads, that’s all. They can’t downvote you, so are accustomed to responding to things thoughtfully and in earnest. There’s no reason to be afraid of them unless you literally want to see zero opposing views, or, unless you’d like to call them “tankies” or “bots” but can’t cope with similar treatment in kind.

It feels kind of MAGA-y to you because you’re using the American definition of Liberal. Both the American Republican party and Democratic party are ideological liberals. Whom MAGA folk would call “liberal”, we just call “blue-MAGA”.

I’d call this a debate but it’s weak, I don’t think there’s even anything but bait.

Everyone that disagrees with you is a child? Sounds like the kind of thing a bot would say.

You just engaged in a discussion without name calling, malice, or anuses.

The difference is you didn’t call us bots, tankies, nazi’s, or use ableist or homophobic slurs.