You’re going to call protestors “agitators” while the broligarchs keep coming up with the most outrageous, evil bullshit they could think of, just for the hell of it.

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    Because they want to build and experiment without all the red tape. Of course they do and people have to relearn why regulations are written in blood.

    They hate the FDA, but one of the reasons it exists was because some folks sold radioactive beverages, mascara that caused blindness, a bunch of snake oil and medicine that killed people and/or caused deformities.

    Adventures with financial deregulation and crypto haven’t been much better so far.

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      BTC is useful though.

      It’s very easy to judge from the EU, but if you are in Russia and need to pay for something in the interwebs, it’s very convenient to have an imperfect, but kinda functioning system like this.

      (Idiots replying with “go rebel” or “change location” need not bother, I happen to have family, friends, dog, ASD and BAD, my sister who’s on my support every time she makes a planning mistake can change location, I can’t. I’m also not a Jedi chosen one to have useful options of “rebelling”.)

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        BTC also uses massive amounts of resources, and we have an impending climate crisis on our hands. Tell me, how is that useful to further the climate destabilization for whatever momentary convenience you think you have. We’re gonna be really sorry in 5-10 years as this thing accelerates. We are getting some seriously bad news in the scientific community right now bcz we are far outpacing even the most pessimistic studies on warming and CO2 output. We have dumbasses in charge who want to pretend climate change doesn’t exist.

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          BTC has an unregulated currency (yes, it still is capable to function as that) to show for it. Probably somebody could have invented a better emission mechanism for it, but not being that somebody, I can’t think of anything with the same qualities.

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    Look into the history of libertarians trying to set up paradises of like minded people to find out why this will fail. They start into the 19th century and just keep failing.

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      When everyone is out for themselves, the very basics of civilization collapse.

      Empathy and pro social behavior are key to our survival and evolution as a species. Oligarchs and unbridled greed are a violation and exploitation of the social contract and bottleneck progress and healthy societal functioning.

      The Bioshock games weren’t just spun up out of nowhere.

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        Libertarianism doesn’t deny empathy and “pro social behavior” (as an autistic person, I rarely see it toward myself, not being liked and not making right faces - apparently not deserving of it, but OK ; it’s already good if those “pro social” people don’t consider it normal to steal from you when they don’t like you), it actually relies on those more.

        The issue is that it’s something that needs scale and consistency. You can’t just assemble a bunch of idealists and crooks and expect them to make a working mechanism.

        I don’t think there were many more successful attempts by left anarchists.

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          We probably have different understandings of the word “libertarian,” from what I’m reading.

          I’m referring to the people who would also label themselves “anarcho-capitalists,” as the literal definition of libertarianism isn’t typically associated with the term. I put it in quotes since capitalism by design leads to and encourages hierarchy (private ownership etc etc). No, commerce/trade is not the same and is as about as old as written history itself.

          I’m also autistic and have been ostracized for “wrong” behavior. When I say “pro social” I mean mutual aid, genuine compassion and actually treating other humans with respect for their immutable traits (beliefs like bigotry don’t count). I do not mean masking or “fitting in.” Unfortunately we do get unfairly judged and that’s bad. But - we also are generally capable of finding and forming our own groups.

          Sovereign utopia building as a whole has its own set of issues, but that’s not what was specifically being addressed. Socialist policies in general improve the wellbeing of the respective societies they’re applied to, though.

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        Both empathy and the lack of it are required. Humans are pack hunters. We work best as teams. Someone has to lead those teams. Guess what traits tend to make for people better at securing and conserving power within groups, and keeping loyalty within their ranks? Yep, you guessed it! Psychopaths! :D

        There are benevolent leaders, yes, that exists, but in a competition where anything goes, a psychopath which is difficult ton detect will have the advantage over someone with more empathy and robust moral limits.

        There’s a reason why they’re roughly estimated to be around 10% of the population. Hierarchies need few leaders. The higher the ladder, the more vicious the psycho it gets, because they’ll have to be competent enough to defend themselves from the other psychos that want all their tasty tasty power.

        The reason why all our leaders are psychopaths is this is the same reason why basketball players are all tall. If you don’t have that trait, you just don’t get the fucking job (edit: unless you’re like REALLY good at it despite your disadvantage).

        This used to depress me, but I chose to stop thinking about it. I don’t think there’s any fixing it.

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      There are people who, disturbed by “big government” today and its tendency to curb the advantages they might gain if their competitiveness were allowed free flow, demand “less govern- ment.” Alas, there is no such thing as less government, merely changes in government. If the libertarians had their way, the distant bureaucracy would vanish and the local bully would be in charge. Personally, I prefer the distant bureaucracy, which may not find me, over the local bully, who certainly will. And all historical precedent shows a change to localism to be for the worse.

      —Isaac Asimov, Nice Guys Finish First, collected in The Sun Shines Bright, 1981

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      I’m not surprised by more of this sovereign state nonsense, I’m just disgusted that they’re proposing building it on a reservation.

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    “Crypto paradise” is the first example in the dictionary when you look up Oxymoron