• BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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    Second one is also free cause we all would use it on Musk the moment the first one worked with Trump.

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      you can probably fill the whole thing with morally acceptable people to disappear

      I can think of like 5 within a second of thinking about it

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      I’ve thought about this an unhealthy amount. Trump would shit himself to death on live TV. He would cry like a bitch and narrate his experience in great detail.

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        The use of it as a mildly lethal control device is underplayed.

        So-and-so does XYZ, then dies of general body breakdown at 94"

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        Are you me? It’s was a good while ago but that was literally what I posted in response to the Death Note question last I saw it!

        Trump would shit himself to death on live Tv. 😂

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          Lol! One should try to live their life in a way that multiple people don’t independently wish you a painful, embarrassing diarrhea death in front of the whole planet.

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            Said staring off in the middle distance with a small glimmer in my eye:

            “I’d like to think there’s a little part in all of us that wants to see Trump shit himself to death on live Tv.”

            Tips hat and walks off into the sunset.

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            J.D. Vance running, wildly masturbating and screaming: “Now I am the king, mommy!” and slipping in Trumps shit and splitting his head open on Hegseths whiskey bottle, ramming it down his throat suffocating him.

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          while accurately parrying any attempts to help him, and then have a seizure in the shit while still fending off any would be rescuers.

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            Perfection! 👌

            Only way I can think of topping that would be make it a double kill with Musk eating himself to death on said shit.

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          “Three days after signing, notarizing and registering all required documents necessary to collectively devote their entire fortunes, stocks and options to an irrevocable trust in support of renewable energy implementation, social welfare systems, sustainable development in the global south, returning resources leased to foreign companies to local citizens, and solving wealth inequality (with trustees selected from currently-living Nobel laureates in chemistry, medicine and economics, the IPCC, and the WHO), Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, all make the collective mistake of riding cybertrucks to the second trust meeting and perish in the resulting inferno, which miraculously leaves no lasting damage on infrastructure, nor causes collateral injuries.”

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          Still a chance of splitting up the money with the descendants cannibalizing each other and fighting over the owning classes corpse.

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      Nah, you’d probably want to do some research into who is the one actually funding people like trump and who in the U.S. government is fomenting these forever wars that are funding the war lobby.

      Trump and Elon are the mouthpieces and distractions for where the real money is coming from.

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    “Surely that was a fluke, it won’t work for a second time!”

    “Twice in a row? What are the chances. I wonder if it works with pencil instead of pen.”

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    But like it would be so unbelievable that you can’t just say, oh x died bc I wrote his name, that would be ludicrous. You need a decent sample size. I think I’d need 3 freebies. Before that i would not believe this notepad kills people.

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      What you do is have your first one be someone famous enough that you know when and how they die if it happens, and something that is specific as a cause and unlikely but not so implausible as to make the note resort to it’s default instead. Like, make Putin trip and break his neck during a live broadcast event or something. You could easily design something plausible enough but still highly unlikely to randomly happen in exactly that way at that time.

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    Iirc, you can write how the person behaves before death on the death note. You can easily write your own life fanfic and peaceful death there to ensure you don’t get Raito’d or L’d in the meantime

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        I think there was a pretty short limit on how far in the future you could write someone’s death.

        23 days. You had 40 seconds to write a cause of death and 6:40 to write the details, and could even pre-write the details and add the name(s) afterward but the Death Note could not effect anything that occurred more than 23 days in the future, with the exception of dying by a disease that would take longer than that to progress and not writing a time (in which case they develop the disease but die when/how the disease would take them). The real problem is that you also can’t use the Death Note to directly extend someone’s life by writing that they die after they normally would - if you try they just die however they would have died if you hadn’t used the note. You can however use the Death Note to kill someone who is a threat to another, indirectly saving their life.

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        No but the longer the time is that you describe the mor reasonable the actions have to be for the person to be.

        So you can make a police officer shoot some random people but you can’t make him save a black child /s

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          So you can make a police officer shoot some random people but you can’t make him save a black child /s

          Oh, now, you could make him accidentally save a black child. Or get blinded immediately beforehand so he doesn’t know the child is black.

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    Remember, when someone unexpectedly kicks the bucket. That leads to a power vaccuum. Instead, you got to go after the middle managers. The people who carry out a politican’s agenda. In theory, another faction would be able to capitalize on the situation. While taking out some politicans would be a net beneft, the fallout would be terrible. A civil war in nuclear armed Russia? Another Middle East war?

    Now when it comes to billionaries and the other parasites. Take those fuckers out. The World doesn’t have to worry about a corporate power vaccuum taking everyone down like a civil war in a country.

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      I mean think about how many thousands of middle managers you would have to kill to disrupt a large bureaucracy.

      For a fraction of the same amount of deaths you could kill existing leaders, anyone that tries to replace them, and their rivals.

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        Maybe middle managers was the wrong word. To better explain myself, let’s have a look at the leadership team of DHS.

        Would removing Meth Gnome Kristi Noem cause chaos? Sure however DHS would continue to more or less function. However, the Chief of Staff Greyson McGill or Deputy Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Madison D. Sheahan being removed would have a far more impact on the daily workings of DHS.

        Or how about any of these chucklefucks?

        While the powerful will fight over who gets to be in charge, the minions will continue to make sure that the system grinds on.

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    “What a cool notebook! I’m going to make this my new personal phone book and spend all afternoon putting all my contacts in it.”

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      Light fucks up early on by killing the fake L on live TV, making it pretty clear there’s a person behind it.

      L has a mega freak out when he does realize it’s magic, because it doesn’t fit with his logical view of the world.

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        Tbf the fake L did say it was a worldwide broadcast and Light wanted to be “god of a new world”. It was a major fuck up no doubt, but if it was worldwide then L wouldn’t have been able to narrow him down to a specific region of Japan, and Light would have been able to announce himself to the world.

        Light is childish and hates to lose… because he’s a high schooler. Idk his age but probably 17-18. Idk how many kids that age would have gotten as far as Light did.

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        I recently watched the series. Well, at least up to a certain point anyway. I’m convinced that L isn’t so much a genius detective as Light was just overwhelmingly fucking stupid

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            I kept seeing memes about Death Note a couple months ago and it was driving me insane. So, I watched a sort of recap/summary thing of the series. Thought “Well that’s dumb. I’ll never watch it.” Couple hours later I’m on episode 3 like “What the fuck happened.”

            But what I did learn from the summary was the ending was so incredibly stupid that I just noped out entirely. Just said fuck it when L leaves the show and ending on that message being sent to the orphanage. Seems like more of a narratively satisfying conclusion

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              The entire of draw of the show is how much L and Light need to fuck. Some weirdos get into Near/Mello but the magic of the first half of the show is how desperately one needs them to have passionate hatesex. This is why everyone hates Misa, despite her doing no wrong - she interrupts the toxic yaoi with compulsory heterosexuality.

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              Good call. The show is fun in the way of them constantly one upping each other, like oh what are they gonna have him do!

              But the ending is so… so bad. And in a sense I get it, if you write it how people would really act no one’s ever going to get caught, there’d be no drama, just a guy killing other guys with a book. But damn…

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    Invariably I’d have drawn a comedy penis in there somewhere, and some poor lad somewhere would likely find his plonker refusing to work one night, or died with his old chap at full mast for maximum embarrassment.

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    If you write “person xyz dies in a month” you have plenty of time to write down thousands of names before the first one dies, and in all this time you can always make the reasonable assumption that it won’t work anyways.

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    Doesn’t a shinigami come and explain how it works? It’s been a bit since I’ve seen death note so I don’t remember if that happens before or after you use it. If it’s before, there’s no reason to assume it wouldn’t work since a supernatural being appears to explain how it works which adds credibility.

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      In the anime, the shinigami only came after the first kill IIRC. Light only had the tutorial text in the notebook to go off of.

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    I think I have to disagree on this one. Whether or not you believed it would work is irrelevant. The malicious intent is what matters here. You happened to find a supernaturally accursed notebook titled “Death Note” and you decide to write someone’s name in it? That already crosses the moral line imo, independent of any actual effects.

    Counterarguments welcome.

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      If I say, “Damn him!” about someone, and it turns out that Hell is real and that saying that actually causes people to be sent to Hell, am I morally culpable for that? Let’s say I attempt to hex someone, knowing full well that it doesn’t work, but just using it as a way to express my frustrations - but then it turns out hexes are real and I actually hexed them?

      You can’t read in a significant malicious intent if a person takes an action that they have every reason to believe is harmless.

      I’d recommend reading some of The Illustrated Guide to Law which covers relevant concepts, albeit from a legal perspective rather than a moral one

      spoiler

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        The intent is the important part, I think. When you say “damn him!” you (I imagine) aren’t actually thinking of damning that person to hell, and seeing if it works.

        It’s more like pointing a gun you’re pretty sure isn’t loaded at someone’s head and pulling the trigger. Even if you thought it wasn’t loaded, you know exactly what you’re doing if it happens to be.

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          No, that’s completely different. Pointing an unloaded gun at someone is 1) a threat, because they might not know it’s unloaded, 2) a violation of established rules and norms about firearm safety, which exist because 3) the gun may be loaded even if you believe it isn’t, this is a fairly common cause of accidents.

          What we’re talking about with a Death Note is something so implausible that it could cause harm that no reasonable person would expect it to work. There’s an enormous difference between “I thought the gun wasn’t loaded but it was,” and, "I thought magic wasn’t real but it was.

          I agree with someone in this thread who said you don’t just get one freebie, but at least three. If I were on a jury and the prosecutor wanted to convince me that the defense knowingly killed people by writing names in a notebook, I imagine there is some finite number that would convince me, not only that it works, but that a reasonable person would expect it to work at the time they wrote the name - but that number might be like a dozen. It certainly wouldn’t be one.