I don’t support ignorance. My own included.
If you(the plural you, not you the person who’s comment I’m replying to) check out just because you hear the word but and presume to know what’s going to be said next or that you can judge that person without them saying another word then you could be a better person.
In this specific example, one could have said I support trans people but I don’t have to like every one of them. Some of us do shitty things. That’s a percentage of every group and we have to be able to speak out against actual shit humans of every single type that exists.
I don’t people that need to leave a conversation but I do expect responses to actual things said not what is predicted to say.
I don’t say this just for the way I speak and communicate. There are many people who struggle to communicate well the thoughts and feelings they feel. Perhaps they don’t know your language very well. I’m very given to find some way a phrase or word can be used differently than I’ve ever heard it used before. I’ve also seen immigrants with poor language skills get hated on for using expressions they hear without fully understanding them. It’s taught me to try to see the literal meaning of words spoken to me. And it’s also made me extremely pedantic when I’m simply trying to be cautious and specific with my words.
I may have many ignorant ideas left to discover and examine. It’s almost certain that I do.
I believe in giving people the chance to express or explain themselves. I also believe in giving people enough rope to hang themselves.
If you are not harming yourself and other people it’s none of my business. If you are only harming yourself and no one else, I’m less decided.
Situations matter. Context matters. Intent matters, Consequences matter
Let people be who they are, if you find the aren’t your people then you at least learned something you probably needed to know.
Honestly, I think the “but” used by mainline Democrats isn’t just bad in a moral sense, but also complicates messaging. Black rights, trans rights, political rights, worker rights, all are rights, and should be part of the same package of human rights.
“I support trans people butt.”
If that is the whole sentence, we’re fine.
I’ve removed a bunch of comments from this thread.
The “but” in this meme means “But there are instances where I don’t support a trans person’s identity/equal rights”. It means that there is never a scenario where you think it’s ok to suggest that trans people should have less rights than cis people, and that there is never a scenario where you think it’s ok to invalidate a trans persons identity.
If your reply is something along the signs of supporting the “but…” because you think “actually, there are some shitty trans people”, then cool, we know, but this isn’t the thread for it, and you’re pulling trans people down in a trans space, to defend a position no one was making. This isn’t that thread. This is a thread for support. So I’ve removed those “gotcha” replies.
If your reply is “actually, there are times when trans people don’t deserve equal rights or to have their identity respected”, then your comment has been removed, and you’ve been permanently banned from all blahaj spaces.
I support trans people, but if one of them cut my legs off with an axe, I’d probably be a little bit upset.
Let me make this clear. A lot of you are missing the point.
If you support trans rights and you support someones identity, but you maybe don’t support a trans billionaire as mentioned by one commenter, then that’s but “I support trans people, but”. That’s just supporting trans people.
If your support for someones identity or rights is conditional then that would be the problem. Phrases like the one in the comic is often made when saying something controversial and invalidating, like only supporting some trans people or thinking it’s okay to misgender certain trans people.
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Ooo I wanna try
I support Trans people but this coffee shop this Trans lady in town opened, her coffee is sour. Will someone please teach her to make coffee so supporting her doesn’t taste bad?
How was that? Also why does my autocarrot capitalize Trans? Is it like Black when referring to identifiers? The Chicago manual of style didn’t prepare me for this
Sure, but you’ve also unveiled an implicit bias there.
It’s like saying the person was black. You didn’t need to, it has no bearing on the story. It shows that something about that particular characteristic had an effect on the situation for you, even subconsciously.
It’s not the hugest deal, it might not even be negative. I catch myself doing it sometimes, we all have stuff that was built into us that we don’t know is there.
Fresh light roast coffee is sour and it’s supposed to be and I love it. If you don’t like sour coffee get darker roasts or shittier coffee. Just saying. Get a great blonde roast shot of espresso pulled for yourseld sometime, life changing.
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Har har har
Fits well with the Not Racist Butt
Oh man I need to save that for a new avatar.
But it’s not Simpsons based.
I am so torn.
But it’s a butt
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I support trans people, but I still feel a little bit uncomfortable around them because of my conservative upbringing and how hard “trans = bad” was driven into my head. I’m working on improving that and every time I interact with someone who is trans I become a little bit more comfortable with it.
If I ever felt the need to tell someone this feeling, I think I would completely rephrase it to avoid this situation anyway.
Im the trans girl your parents warned you about >:3
I get it. I had to do a lot of unlearning just to be comfortable with myself. I can hardly blame folks who are trying for slipping up as long as they do what the can to make it right.
Some of us grew up with that same belief set about ourselves.
I think theres a lot of opportunity to say that kind of thing kindly to a friend or person. As someone who’s working on not seeing herslef as bad just because I exist, the fact that you’re working towards fixing that internal bias helps on that journey for anyone traveling it
You’re doing infinitely more work than the majority of the US right now; it’s much appreciated that yoy’re confronting your own discomfort with kindness and compassion rather than the usual anger and vitriol that leads to violence against trans people
That’s fair, I had sorts of folks I had to spend time around to get comfortable with too. I think a lot of people think that it’s necessary or easy to suddenly become comfortable with sorts of people who are marginalized. But what we should be doing is demanding people be moving towards a more equal and free society and not making their discomfort those people’s problem.
ETA: building comfort with those groups is also important, but it’s slow and it’s something we shouldn’t beat people up for not being quite at yet.
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I support trans people, but I’m also ok with non-trans people and anyone between and otherwise!
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I support trans people butt I’m honestly a coward who does not want to get stoned for it.
dude, it’s your turn with the pipe. you sure you don’t want to get stoned?
