Can we just talk about how sweet that hugs was?
Thats a good dad right there.
The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely, Jiron said.
Just for curiousity…did the police think to check the fucking doorbell camera?
“Too closely”? My man he’s a good 50-100m away from that bus at the start of the clip, and the bus didn’t just jack on its brakes, that was a slow and diliberate stop.
Following to closely. Lol.
Guys the bus just jumped outta no where, he had no time to react. Plus it wasn’t dressed in bright enough colors to be visible
Everything happened so fast, he had only minutes to react!
The bumper on the school bus it way too high.
the bus is designed against such an impact to protect eh children.
Was it? There are children in there. I have a feeling that the extra height may have saved the children in the back seats from being crushed by a truck half the size of the school bus.
On the back? Not being from america, I believe they are designed to be wedge shaped at the back to shove any impact down and protect those in the back seat.
Distracted by cell phones me apparently
Now imagine that it was a sedan doing a carpool. Fuck everyone who drives a truck to commute around town. Fuck everyone who thinks, I’ll buy a truck because I’ll be safer. I hope gasoline goes up to $15 per gallon and every truck driving piece of shit has to choose between eating or driving because of their moronic vehicle buying decision.
Truck or no truck, you can’t fix stupid.
And thus, for everybody’s safety, no truck.
i’m a firefighter. seen a few of these “slams into a taller object like a bus or rig…” and that pickup is very lucky if he lived. i am glad to see that hug. and calm walk to the scene too. guy was smart.
Imagine being so dumb you miss something as big and yellow as a school bus. Fucking moron
That bus jumped out of nowhere!
Thought it was the sun.
Dodge Ram = Drunk driver
Where is this list from?
I like the data but the only result that I could find looks wildly different – https://insurify.com/car-insurance/insights/car-models-most-duis/
But it also looks like a different X-Axis…“DUIs per 1000 drivers” vs “Drivers per 1000 with one or more DUI citations on their record”. So the one I found could be counting multiple DUIs differently.
Still, interesting if true.
My dad made drunk driving look so easy in his Dodge Ram.
That hug hits hard. A few more steps forward and it would have been a terrible situation.
I know! Also, if you watch closely, the kid just narrowly missed getting smacked by flying debris. Thank goodness!
That IS a crazy fucking video.
Bro Dozer is no match for the construction of a school bus. Thank goodness. That guy needs a timeout without a license.
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I’m pretty sure he’s getting a timeout.
Wonder what the reason was. Messing with a phone?
As he (lets face it, this is most defenatly a he) is not even trying to break, and the school bus is as visible as ang objext can be I assume he was not looking at the raid. Telephone would be my guess as well
Dumbass too big american car smashes into a dumbass american bus that is so high up that a dumbass american car that’s too large can get under it.
Imagine if that was a smaller car. 100% decapitation.
Imagine if the bus was smaller.
Imagine if the two kids inside ths bus were seated in back.
That would be easily solved with a Mansfield bar, should be mandatory on buses that high.
As i said in another comment, busses intentionally do not have Mansfield Bars so a vehicle rear ending the bus goes under instead of transferring all of the force of the impact into the bus.
Yeah, busses carry people, not cargo.
If someone is dumb enough to not see the giant yellow thing covered in flashing lights and crash into it they deserve to eat steel.
Correct! That’s the cheap option at least.
The expensive solution is to reduce the mass of the passenger vehicle and lower the bus. Maybe even put the engine of the bus in the back.
The bus is tall for two main reasons. First, to avoid getting high-centered on bumps. Since the rear wheels are fairly far forward on the bus, and the tail sticks out behind them so far. Notice that on a semi trailer, the wheels are near the very back of the trailer:
Think about how steep a slope would need to be in order for the back tail of the trailer to scrape the ground. Even with the Mansfield bar shown in the image, it’s still an extremely steep slope, right? Just eyeballing this image, it looks like about 30° of difference, which is an absurd “the truck would never even realistically be driving on that” slope:
Now let’s compare that to a bus:
Notice that the tail sticks out behind the wheels a lot farther? And notice how the tail would hit the ground on a steep driveway or rail crossing a lot sooner? It only looks like about 10° of difference before the tail hits the ground:
The tail of a bus can easily land on top of a steep hill (lifting the rear wheels off the ground, and effectively immobilizing the entire bus) if the tail is too low. Or more commonly, the rear wheels will get stuck in a dip (like a rain gutter) while the tail and front wheels are on the ground.“Just move the rear wheels back, so the tail won’t land on anything” I hear some people starting to type out. Except that would inevitably prevent the bus from making necessary turns. Busses need to be able to fit into residential areas to pick up and drop off kids. Residential areas tend to have narrower streets, more street parking, and tighter turns. Semi trailers don’t need to fit into those smaller side streets, and are okay with a wider turn radius. So semi trailers are able to keep the wheels way back at the end of the trailer. But since a bus needs to be able to fit into those tighter residential areas, they need to have the wheels set closer to the front of the bus, so they can make those tighter turns.
The second reason the bus is tall (and I’d argue, the most important reason), is that lowering the bus or reducing the mass would increase the risk to the kids inside of the bus. By allowing the car to slide under the bus, a lot of the kinetic energy is distributed vertically, (picking up the tail of the bus and pushing the rear-ending vehicle down) instead of directing it into crumpling the back of the bus. Because the back of a bus has very little room for crumple zones. The back seats are essentially right up against the rear wall of the bus. If you lower the bus and expect it to crumple, you’re going to crush kids. And if you lower the mass, you’ve just given 60-70 kids permanent whiplash because the bus was pushed too hard. A pragmatic vehicle engineer who remembers their humanities courses could easily argue that the design shouldn’t intentionally shatter twenty kids’ femurs (and give every kid in the bus whiplash) just to save one negligent driver’s life.
Modern school bus designs are basically the culmination of engineering for a very specific set of requirements: 1) keep kids safe, 2) be able to fit into residential areas so the bus can pick up/drop off near the kids houses (which helps keep them safe), and 3) avoid getting high-centered on anything. And “keeping people who rear-end it safe” wasn’t on the list of requirements. A Mansfield bar at the back of the bus would defeat at least one of those requirements, by making high-centering much more common. The needs of the many (the kids) outweigh the needs of the few (the rear-ender) in this case.
Tell me you have ADHD without telling me you have ADHD.
You’re 100% correct BTW.
Thank you for not giving a brain dead response. I saw so many people arguing for things that would get hundreds to thousands of kids killed.
Ok be real, we’re taking about the USA here, they’re not going to reduce the mass of anything.
Lol
I read or was told at one point as a kid that that was an intentional feature on busses- they made the floor that high on purpose to make them safer for the occupants- instead of a rear collision hitting the frame head on eith their grill, and transferring all that momentum to the occupants, they were hitting the bus with their windshield/ chasis, and, much of the force that did transfer would be pushing the bus up because they were going under it like a wedge
Exactly, would you rather an accident kill a dozen innocent students or 1-2 dumbass(es) who rear ended a bright yellow bus.
Or, you know, kill 0 people, in the normal world.
This is the normal world.
hold on what was the social credit score of the children
I don’t know, the bus has a lot more mass than most cars - even in a bumper to bumper collision they should come out pretty well
A normal car doesn’t have a bumper to bumper collision with a schoolbus. My car would have a bumper-to-headrest collision at that speed.
You’re assuming a perfectly rigid system. The school bus has a lot of mass in front of the rear wheels and under the hood. But behind the rear wheels, it’s basically just aluminum sheeting bolted onto the frame, and children sitting in seats, packed in like sardines. That means the mass at the front of the bus is actually working against you, because you run the risk of sandwiching all of the kids at the back of the bus. If the tail of a school bus crumples, you’ve just shattered 20 kids’ femurs and the fire department is going to spend the next 6 hours cutting them all out of the wreckage. The ideal method is to direct as much energy away from crumpling the frame as possible. And the best way (aside from adding a cow-catcher wedge to the back of the bus, to fling them off to one side or the other) is by turning it into vertical force that lifts the tail, instead of crumpling directly into it.
A bus has a lot of mass in the front, the rest of the bus not so much.
The goal of safety design of vehicles is to dissipate as much energy as possible, at no expense to one or the other side.
This is still a rather mild accident of a pasanger vehicle rear-ending a bus. But it’s made so much worse simply because of both-sided idiotic vehicle designs.
Most of the world realised that and rectified it rather qucikly.
One car getting under another car is never the “safe” solution.
Are you talking about ideal safety design, or American design IRL?
Because weve been in a weight and height arms-race for decades explicitly because whoever weighs more and is higher is safer, at the expense of the other vehicle.
The cars I’m talking about are far from ideal. Ideal cars would look awful, and since, “for some reason”, we’re very touchy about what a car should look like, it’s a shape of an inefficient, unsafe brick.
But yes, the issue is the arms race, as you’ve put it. And it’s starting to infect Europe as well, so education on vehicle safety is paramount.
Vechicle safety is not “as long as I’m in a tank - I’m safe, and that’s all that matters”. (This is not aimed at you)
excuse me the multipla looks more like a mangled duck
Think about how many people are typically on a school bus, compared to a a car which likely has just one occupant.
Did you born fucked or did mama hit you silly?
“Did you born”. Intelligence of an american dumbass car that’s too big owner.
american dumbass car that’s too big owner
oof, you just couldn’t stick the landing. being unfamiliar with a dialect is no reason to mock it.
Right, can you believe the utter audacity of these uncultured bigots. To insult what they have not yet witnessed for them selves. For shame.
from which dialect is “did you born” ?
Did your mama orphaned you, when you was littles cause I hearded it from her. :)
She orphaned me with a stick I tell you
fuck if i know, i don’t know it either. there are a shitton of dialects tho. How general or specific do you want to get? I’m only an amateur linguist so like, that’s the quality you’re getting here dude
If you don’t know any examples, how will specificity help ?
I mean it sounds like it could be aave but like every city has its own dialect. Like I said, shitton of dialects.
I have seen more drivers not just using their phones, but holding them up in front of their faces, in dumb giant trucks more than all other vehicle types combined.
It’s the standard duality of stupid conservatives that also makes them susceptible to fascist politics, like the thing where the enemy is both weak and strong.
They have to drive the biggest, most intimidating vehicle possible because of all the druggie minorities who are going to crash into them. But their Dunning-Kruger confidence in their flawless senses plus being in their rolling fortress “safe space” combine to make them some of the worst fucking drivers. And that’s when they aren’t carelessly driving drunk!
Holding them up is arguably better than staring at the floor trying to be sneaky. Either way it’s fucking stupid though. No message is that important, if it is they’d call.
