mate, you can’t even figure out what a word means. Everything you believe is suspect if your approach is that sloppy.

Fix your approach to learning, then form opinions.

If my approach to understanding was so flawed as to fail at looking up a word I would be deeply concerned about the quality of my thinking.

You legitimately suck at argumentation and writing.

You do get that if I threaten to kill you unless you kill more people that you are actually culpable if you take the latter option right?

You saw a word you didn’t know and you didn’t try a dictionary or search engine?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=gaol

You know people can refuse right? the state doesn’t torture their families or anything.

Tbh I don’t feel comfortable speculating on what state stupidity operations are. My exposure to some as an info sec enthusiast suggests they’re extremely varied and often quite stupid. Following the same logic as scams a lot of the time: go wide and see who bites.

But to get back to the point: there’s this growing trend of liberals (little ell) blaming everything they don’t like about politics on Russian/Chinese psyops which credits state stupidity too much and disguises the underlying issues in our society.

Further xenophobic paranoia and militarism is… unlikely, shall we say, to address or protect against the political movements that fester in such environments.

There’s so many. I was there 2000 years ago when we just hung out on IRCs and xmpp.

If you actually dig into the studies a lot of the excessive socmed time of kids is chatting. what we used to do with MSN and shite.

Kids will find a way to hang out and share stuff. Probably better that it happens in the light.

I am reminded of older attitudes towards sex and teens. Preventing kids from being open about their sexual activities didn’t make it safe, it meant that people fucked in filthy places and didn’t have a proper education, or made friends with someone seedy as to get porn.

We should provide safe(\r) alternatives, not ban things and then pretend that bored teenagers aren’t some of the most creative people on the planet.

I wish we could just regulate algorithmic recommendation and make companies over a certain size liable for content they promote (like publishing houses are) instead.

I am really concerned that this will do nothing to stop general social degradation and may actually cement the power of large operators by making smaller companies of ambiguous status legally risky; also pushing children to engage with hellscape platforms like 4chan or platforms run by other states Australia has less ability to regulate.

Also it’s a fucking privacy nightmare, but I’m aware that us tinhatters are alone in our damn Cassandra complexes as everything we’ve warned about happens over and over again.

TIL Russian spies grew the NSN members in vats and loosed them on us. They are also behind the white Australia policy and our refusal to reckon with genocidal and slaving history.

Like I’m sure operatives can do a few nudges or offer some funding or training but like… the Nazis are coming from inside the house.

cool beans. I’m off to do some ecosystem restoration and bushcare. Once again, I strongly recommend going outside and doing something positive.

Which I have obviously done, having an opinion on history that is different to yours.

Just… log off. Go do something, Lemmy posts aren’t some revolutionary front.

TIL buying time to industrialise to fight Nazis to hang the genocidal fuckers is adjacent to a Nazi.

What a ludicrous statement. I’m not even offended, that’s just funny. Murdering Nazi fuckers being good is probably close to one of my most deeply held beliefs, as is common in basically everyone who’s family was exterminated by them.

They’re probably joking as this is the justification historically used by some colonial states for keeping their booty.

What are you even talking about?

The French largely completely collaborated. The French resistance were impressive, but they had significant aid, lots of French jew were killed because the state and police actively supported Nazi efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France, the Nazis never regarded ethnically French people as untermensch to be worked to death in camps so they didn’t face the same systemic murder that Slavic people did, the policy of lebensraum didn’t target fench lands for “emptying”.

You can’t be coherant because you just want other people to die for your ideals but you stay inside posting all day.

You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.

Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate? No fucking way my grandparents would have survived if the USSR didn’t occupy Poland. Shit was brutual but at least it wasn’t deathcamp brutual and my grandmother got an education and shit.

I love you don’t link to the context because it’ll make you look stupid.

It just seems insane to me that anyone could look at the death toll, the injuries, the people being conscripted, the flattened cities, the POWs and consider this a good outcome because a lot of Russians also died.

You have to really hate Slavs if you’re that full of glee at fields of dead that you don’t care that the side you’re “supporting” is in ruins and the government is forcing people into the meat grinder.

Fight them, or find a way to stop the death. Russia has more people, they will win a war of attrition.

But hey if you’re a French president or whatever you get to test your hardware, weaken Russia, kill off a lot of those pesky Slavs that keep migrating for work that really riles up the racists against the EU, and you can postition yourself as the leader of an axis for freedom. It’s wins all round.

lol sunshine: states don’t suffer, people do. I don’t care for the russian state, hell I’d love to see Putin and his oligarchs hanging skinned in a public square along with every other blood thirsty parasite crushing us all. I just find it pretty telling that it’s always people considered “undesirables” by those in power who suffer and die for Realpolitik.

Find evidence of me being a bigot

Notice how sunshine/aqua/million other stalker aliases has no evidence?

BTW my grandmother was from Lviv, and the thing sunshine is accusing me of is because I once expressed the opinion that western Europe and the USA are prolonging the war with no intention of fighting Russia because they love to see Slavs kill each other since they don’t consider us proper humans.